A Day at Microsoft – The Game Camp 2009 in Munich

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Yesterday I spent my time at the GameCamp in Munich, the first BarCamp I ever visited and the first time ever that Microsoft opened it’s gates, because the whole event took place in the Microsoft headquarter in Munich (or better Unterschleißheim), which is a cool location to talk about games.

At first I feared that it will be a waste of time, because a BarCamp has no planned program, instead all sessions are decided in the morning together with all attendees, which I thought could be a bit tricky. But I must say that I was rather impressed by the quality of the lectures, at least the three ones I saw.


First Session: Charaktergetriebenes Geschichtenerzählen in konvergenten Medienwelten by Benjamin Feld.

The first lecture I saw was by Benjamin Feld, who talked about character-driven storytelling in convergent media worlds. Benjamin is a local producer and founder of Synergetic Crossmedia Concepts.

Starting with a general talk about convergence leading to the insight that games take a special position, because they are the intersection between all mediums, Benjamin came to point which interested me most, namely how a convergence of media affects the role of characters in games.

Benjamin said that characters need to be interesting on the one hand, because only interesting characters can create a platform for identification and identification with the character is needed to create emotions, which is true for all mediums. On the other hand a character needs a recognition value, which works on three layers. A character can be recognizable by its visual design, by the way its acts or on a psychological layer.

If you have a look at all the different forms of media you see that games have a trend to create characters which are strong on a visual basis (Kratos, Mario, Lara Croft, etc.), movies are king when it comes to action (WallE is a perfect example) and literature can create the most psychological deep characters (Faust, Hamlet, Dorian Grey). Special cases are comics, where we find characters that are rich on all three layers.

When we try to convert characters from one medium into another we will soon stumble upon some problems, because most game characters are not psychological deep enough to work in movies or literature, whereby characters in literature are mostly visually not appealing enough to work in games or movies.

To solve this problem Benjamin proposed a “Iconography of Things”, meaning that we should equip our characters or the world they live in with recognizable elements which work in every medium, like the hat and whip of Indiana Jones or Sherlock Holmes’ famous pipe.

I personally agree with Benjamin that a good story is driven by its characters, but I think that creating characters for game are a special case and primarily shouldn’t be designed with other medias in the back of one’s mind, because characters in games need not only be interesting but they must be designed in a way that the avatar’s motivation of acting within the game world is the same as the player’s. Only when the motivation of the avatar and player are correspondent will the player be able to fully fall into the story and emphasize with its characters. I think that’s the key to good characters in games. But nevertheless is the Iconography of Things a good way to enrich your character and increase its recognition value.

Second Session: Balancing von Strategiespielen (Spieltheoretische Ansätze) by Nico Grupp

Nico Grupp is student at the LMU in Munich and talked about the balancing of strategy games with a approach based on the game theory. He chose this subject for his degree dissertation so he was rather well prepared.

First he defined what it means for a game to be fair and I think his definition is very good because he said that in theory a perfectly balanced game, played flawlessly by players with the same skill, should go on till all eternity.

The easiest way to achieve this is a by a symmetrical game design, meaning that the both player have the exact same start resources and units on symmetrical map. But, and I fully agree with him, this is just plain boring in most games and the goal of good game design is an asymmetrical design which is still balanced so that players have the same chance to win the game although they play with different units.

He also said a game designer should avoid dominant strategy, meaning a way to play which is better than all other ways, or a dominated strategy, which is worse than all other strategies. He also explained the difference between strict dominance, when a unit is better than another unit in every case, and weak dominance, when a unit is only better in one case but still equal in all other cased. He also explained the fragmentation formula, which describes that a player should always choose a single unit over two units, even when they have the same values.

Nico explained that he came up with a way to balance a strategy game on paper, based on the insight that you can estimate the outgoing of a fight when you know the system it is based on. Nico’s idea is to balance a strategy game by estimating the choices the player’s have at each moment and the outcome of their battles, whereby each a battle is a sub-system in a decision-tree.

I have some personal experience with a similar approach I used to balance my student game Dawn of Bugs and I think it is a lot of work to find good balancing values. I also think that you can use such a system only to get a good start but it will never fully replace a long testing phase. Another point is that the time is takes to create a table to fully balance the game based on the estimation of sub-systems takes nearly as much time as testing. But I also know that Nico’s approach can discover a lot of conceptual mistakes before time is wasted to implement them. I am curious about the outcome of his dissertation and hope that maybe he will present them next year.

Third Session: Start-Up experience by a browser game company.

The third session was by a small browser-based company who successfully survived their first year in the business. For me the most interesting facts were that they get ninety percent of their players through mouth to mouth propaganda and only 5-10 percent of their income is generated via advertisement, the rest via micro-transactions and premium features. They also stated that 20 percent of their players use premium features which is rather much. Another important point was that they do not have any exclusive premium content and warned exclusive content would rather be a bad deal because they would lose more money by players leaving the game than gaining money from players who would buy the exclusive content.

Summary

Although I did not participated the second day, because my head felt rather large this morning due to the long evening at the aftershow party, I think that the GamesCamp was a good experience and I hope they will do it again next year because after yesterday I lost my fear of BarCamps.

380 Responses to “A Day at Microsoft – The Game Camp 2009 in Munich”

  1. [...] just wanted to tell you that Nico Grupp’s presentation is online at the session page of the GameCamp. The presentation is called Balancing in Strategiespielen (mit Methoden der Spieltheorie) and is very interesting for everyone who is concerned with the problems of balancing, either in RTS games or in general. For more information on the content of the presentation read my last post. [...]

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